PBS NewsHour Weekend full episode October 19, 2019


On this edition for Saturday
October 19th another setback for a brexit deal in our signature segment the first in a two-part series on ice detention in
Louisiana I sense Hodgman Mania and writer John hodgman’s take on losing status
next on PBS Newshour weekend
From the Tish wnet studios at Lincoln Center in New York
Alison Stewart
Good evening. Thanks for joining us
Will they stay or will they go the fate of?
Brexit, britain’s long-running plan to exit the european union remains unknown today an extraordinary
Saturday session of parliament ended with a vote that delays a decision on Prime Minister Boris Johnson’s recent negotiated agreement with the EU
In lowering standards
Johnson presented a new plan to a bitterly divided House of Commons today
hoping for an end to years of debate and now is the time for
This great House of Commons to come together and bring the country together
today
Leaders of the Labour and Scottish national parties called the deal even worse than one Johnson’s predecessor Theresa
May tried and failed to negotiate
Mr. Speaker. I also totally understand the frustration and the fatigue across the country and in this house
but we simply cannot vote for a deal that is even worse than the one the house rejected three times this
Government has sold Scotland out. And once again, they have laid Scotland down
in the end
There was no vote on the overall brexit deal only a vote to pass an amendment that is supposed to slow down the process
outside parliament hundreds of thousands of protesters filled the streets
Many of them calling for a second national referendum on brexit and a chance to keep written in the European Union
We need to have another side we need to say what’s on our minds. So many people change their minds
Franklin said is a correspondent for NPR and author of the recent book the shanghai free taxi. He joins me now from London
What exactly did Parliament vote on this morning?
Well Boris Johnson the Prime Minister wanted them to vote on his brexit withdrawal agreement. That would take the country out
Ideally from his perspective and from the deadline at the end of this month and instead lawmakers in the parliament had a different idea
They’re concerned that they can’t get all the legislation
Finished in time and they were afraid that the United Kingdom could invert inadvertently crash out of the U with no deal at all
causing a lot of economic damage
So what they said they passed an amendment saying we will approve this only once all the legislation has gotten done
So this is actually delayed the vote
Who was responsible for setting up for orchestrating the possibility of a delay?
Well, there were a number of lawmakers who were very concerned about crashing out of the EU. And also I got to be honest
There’s a lot of distrust of Boris Johnson you remember last month?
He suspended Parliament here the Supreme Court of the United
Kingdom slapped him down and said you broke the law and so there was concern that either through accident or perhaps deliberately some brexit ears
Might try to foil things
Basically mess up the legislation so that the country crashed out
So people even people who want to vote for this deal were very worried
And so they backed the amendment compelling him to ask for an extension from Brussels
What must Boris Johnson do legally now?
Legally he is supposed to write a letter tonight to Brussels asking for an extension. He says he won’t do it
He just refuses to and the reason is that all along
He said that he would rather die in a ditch
Then go back to Brussels and promise to get the country out because of course
It’s been almost three and a half years since the 2016 brexit vote. And so he’s adamant. He won’t do it
What are the true sticking points the true sticking point?
I think here really is is the distrust of Boris Johnson and the fact that this timetable is so tight this is one of the
Biggest decisions made by the UK government in many decades and they don’t want to make a mistake and they don’t want to miss something
The hill is reporting that the US Chamber of Commerce is calling for the deadline for brexit to be extended
We leave me no wonder what’s been the economic impact of all of these delays
I was on a train recently up to Manchester and I met two people
Who work in there headhunters in the City of London the financial district? They voted to remain in the EU?
They said that right now they can’t get any business done
People can’t make a decision because there’s been so much uncertainty. And in fact, they would actually back
Boris Johnson’s deal so they actually were switching side. So from a business perspective, I think that this uncertainty has cost a lot
What do a verge people think at this point? They’re exhausted what you hear a lot from people is get brexit done
Nobody thought certainly when this was sold to people the brexit ear said this would be easy
It’s been anything but and I think there’s a tremendous amount of brexit fatigue
Even some people who voted to remain would like to see this done. I hear it even from some young people
So I think people are very tired of it
It’s a very interesting you talk to people and they’ll say even if there is short-term economic damage
I just want the country to move on. It’s very striking that said
Thousands were out today
Saying we need a new referendum in this country the deal that Boris Johnson has is not at all we voted for for 2016
So the country also remains very divided what is supposed to happen next?
What are the next milestones what I think that we will see is on Monday or Tuesday?
Boris Johnson will try to bring this bill back
We will also see lawmakers go back to the courts to force him to ask for
An extension from Brussels and as is often the case when we get into these branches brexit crunch times when we get close to deadlines
We just have to see sort of day to day how this plays out
NPR’s Frank Lankford. Thank you so much. Thanks for having me Alison
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clashes between Turkish backed Syrian soldiers and Kurdish forces continued in Syria today despite a u.s. Brokered ceasefire
Both sides are blaming the other for the attacks that came on the second day of the planned
Five-day halt in fighting the agreement negotiated between vice president Mike Pence and turkish President Recep Tayyip air Dewan
requires that Kurdish forces withdraw from territory along the area Turkey border
But the Kurds are accusing turkey of failing to maintain a safe corridor for the passage of civilians and the wounded
speaking at an event today air Dewan warned that turkey will quote crush the heads of Kurdish fighters if they do not withdraw by
Tuesday evening
Today thousands of anti-government demonstrators returned to the streets of Lebanon for a third straight day
protesters angry over the country’s failing economy
Called for a new government waving flags and marching past storefronts that were smashed and rioting last night
Yesterday Lebanon’s prime minister gave his government a 72-hour deadline
to agree on a plan to avert an economic crisis and put an end to the
demonstrations in a televised speech today
The leader of Hezbollah said the group opposes a change in government and said every citizen is responsible for the financial crisis
Florida’s Gulf Coast is under a storm surge warning of up to four feet as
What was tropical storm Nestor continues to bring heavy rains and strong winds to the southeast?
The system was downgraded this morning, but it is expected to affect Florida parts of Alabama
Georgia and the Carolinas through tomorrow early this morning several tornadoes spun off the storm and hit parts of Florida
Damaging homes. There were no reported injuries
On
Tuesday a Cuban seeking asylum in the u.s. Who had been in ice custody in Louisiana for months died by an apparent suicide
Roylene Hernandez Diaz had been on a hunger strike and had claimed abuse in prison
Louisiana has become a center of America’s migrant detainee effort housing almost 8,000 of the more than
51,000 people currently behind bars
Many of them are held in remote prisons and jails far from legal representation
Reporting in cooperation with the New Orleans advocate and itvs Newshour weekend special correspondent, Joanne, Elgort
Jennings has the story the first in our two-part report
When attorney O’Meara Lopez needs to meet in person with clients held in immigration detention
He has to make long drives from his home in New Orleans
If you do a day trip, you’re talking about six to eight hours of drive not including the time that you’re physically there
His nonprofit
immigration services and legal
advocacy provides free legal representation for migrants detained in Louisiana and with more and more
Detention centers being opened in rural areas. He spends a lot of time in his car
There’s a limited amount of people who are doing the detained cases in Louisiana because it is there are so far
so rural so difficult to to get to and to handle
Most of Lopez’s clients are at the Pine Prairie ice processing center
It’s a hundred eighty miles northwest of New Orleans and holds up to one thousand ninety four detainees, though
It’s a federal facility
It’s run and staffed by geo group a private prison company that contracts with the US government geo
Declined our request to tour the detention center, but we were permitted to enter the visitation area and meet some of Lopez’s clients
32 year-old Christian de Lyon has been in ice custody for 14 months a
Native of Guatemala de Leon came to the US on a work visa which has since expired
He was living in Alabama with his fiancee and their three children and working in construction
How did you end up here and ice detention in Louisiana
Oh that I had a small car accident and the police came to help me and then they arrested me
DeLeon was charged with driving under the influence
He says when his fiancee came to pay his bond the police wouldn’t let her he was the hero
They said that ice was already coming for me
Ice issued a deportation order which de Lyonne is appealing
Meanwhile he married his fiancee an American citizen in a brief prison ceremony. He’s now applying for a green card as her spouse
DeLeon is not typical of Lopez’s clients. Most have applied for
Asylum because they feared for their lives in their home country like 36 year-old Jamal Jamal who came to the u.s
from Pakistan
He says he had fallen in love with a woman whose family had arranged a marriage for her with another man when the woman told
Her family. She wanted to marry Jamal instead. They killed her a tribal council then ordered Jamal’s execution. So he fled the country
What do you think will happen if you are deported back to Pakistan in my beginning?
On arrival in the US he asked for asylum
He’s been an ice detention for 11 months. As his case makes its way through immigration court
Katie Schwartzman is legal director of the American Civil Liberties Union in Louisiana
She says that migrants like Jamal who entered the US legally
Seeking asylum and demonstrate a credible fear of returning to their home country should be released on bond
They’re entitled to consideration for something that our immigration law calls
humanitarian parole, which means
The right to remain out in the community in the United States as ice
Considers whether the grant of asylum is appropriate
Ices regional office in New Orleans is responsible for five southern states, including Louisiana as recently as
2016 under the Obama administration
It approved parole for almost seventy six percent of asylum cases
under the Trump administration
That number has plunged to 1.5 percent
The ACLU and the Southern Poverty Law Center have filed suit against the Department of Homeland Security
They allege that Isis New Orleans office is categorically denying parole to asylum seekers in a quote
violation of DHS his own directive and guidelines a
Federal judge agreed noting in September that the number of parole approvals had dropped to zero percent in 2019
He ruled that DHS must consider granting parole to detainees seeking asylum. The government is appealing the ruling
Ice officials say parole is designed to be narrowly applied Brian Cox is acting press secretary
The reality is is that if people could show up at the border
Make a claim and be released into the interior of the United States
Not everyone will then appear in court and so detention and some instances is a necessary
Use of resources to ensure that persons do in fact appear in court
But over the past year ice has held more migrants in detention than ever before and many are here in Louisiana last
year, there were two prisons holding about
2,500 ice detainees now, there are eleven holding almost nine thousand people
Detained migrants are less likely to win asylum than those who await trial on the outside
O’Meara Lopez’s clients are among the lucky few who have legal representation
On this day lope has his meeting with Dickson Hernandez Naranjo via
Videoconference not all detention centers allow the practice
They’re trying to prepare for the tough questioning Hernandez will face in an asylum hearing the next day
In his native Cuba Hernandez was a tour guide
He says government officials accused him of speaking unpatriotic, ly to tourists and jailed him repeatedly for what he calls thought crimes
While an ice detention at Pine Prairie Hernandez participated in a hunger strike
He says he and his fellow protesters were being unfairly incarcerated
We’re not criminals we just simply want to fight for our rights like anybody who comes to seek asylum
He was placed in solitary confinement for his participation and missed a meeting with Lopez now
They are having one last session before the hearing
The next morning Lopez makes a three and a half hour drive to Oakdale a small town in Central, Louisiana
Which is mostly comprised of a strip of chain stores
Tucked inside a Federal Correctional Complex is the nondescript Oakdale immigration court
It handles all cases for migrants detained at Pine Prairie Lopez is here to present Hernandez’s asylum case
He’s hopeful but he knows the odds are not in his clients favor
our judges have a very low approval rate for relief for asylum in particular and
We just don’t see a lot of wins. Unfortunately from 2013 to 2018
Judges at this court denied Asylum nearly 90 percent of the time
But Lopez and his law partner al page have beaten the odds lately
They won five out of eight asylum cases while we were in, Louisiana
among the winds Dixon Hernandez Naranjo
We caught up with him at the bus station in New Orleans shortly after he was released from detention
Hernandez says he’s grateful to be out in what he calls a country with freedom, but he says the treatment he received in detention
especially in solitary confinement was not what he expected in the United States a the same experience when I’ve been in the whole
Water like a single spray when I’m being in the home in Cuba may be more dangerous on cue
Jamal Jamal and Cristian DeLeon remain in ice detention a judge recently denied Jamal’s application for asylum
He decided to appeal the decision rather than be deported immediately
De Leon has fallen ill and is being tested for a heart condition
From frequent flyer programs to exclusive hotels and secret societies
There are many ways people chase status but as writer and comedian John Hodgman tells it in a new memoir
There’s as much a story of losing that status as in gaining it PBS Newshour weekend
Christopher Booker sat down to chat with Hodgman to find out more
It was a pair of short legged cattle herding dogs that confirmed one of John hodgman’s creeping suspicions
That’s Linus the Corgi and chompers two Corgi two extremely popular corgis on instagram
I’ve learned this when they were invited to the same exclusive party that I was and I realized they were more famous than me
Though it had been a few years since he had lost his status as what he calls a famous minor television personality
It was the corgis who really humbled him. There was no sense hiding my feelings
It was terrible not to be on television to learn that you were not even as famous as the least famous dog on the internet
But there’s a pleasure to be human while Hodgman may enjoy being human his new book
Medallion status is an explanation of what it felt like when the world reminded him that that was indeed
What he was these are just true stories from my life in this case
my life is a very famous minor television personality and all the secret rooms and first class lounges and
exclusive parties that even the minors Fame
affords you and then what it felt like to be kicked out of those rooms and to come back down to earth as a
Regular human being hello. I’m a Mac and I’m a PC
Ironically John Hodgman had earned his medallion status a name
He borrowed from a high prestige frequent flyer program during his time spent playing a nonhuman
I firstly had to download those new dry first and I gotta erase the trial software that came on my hard drive
I could not walk in an airport without people saying I’m a PC
pcs getting an upgrade
Because more than anything else I had ever done or ever will do more eyes were laid on me then than ever before
From 2006 to 2010 Hodgman was one half of Apple’s wildly successful get a Mac campaign
Actually the IMAX and the mac books has a cameras built right in in the commercials
He played a PC in conversation with an actor playing a younger hipper. Apple computer Mac
Why didn’t you say something positive about PC? Okay easy, PC
You are a wizard with numbers PC struggled to understand how and why he was always falling short
I guess he are a little better at creative stuff
Thank you, even though it’s juvenile and waste of time, please welcome John Hodgman, John
Hodgman’s for a under the small screen had started with an appearance on The Daily Show with Jon Stewart
Following the publication of his first book in 2005 that went so well that the show invited him back as a regular contributor. I
sense if I may and I don’t mean to embarrass you I sense Hodgman Mania a
Few months later Apple called and you said no at first. Oh, yeah
It’s true. I was a dummy
But they came back I think about that I get chills cuz what if they said, oh do that
We’ve got a million other people to think about for this
How different my life would be and how not just in terms of famer success, but in in in richness of experience, yeah
We probably wouldn’t be talking we probably would be great enemies PC. You want to see the website in home movie on it?
Oh
I’m so creative and all my programs are so easy to use during this run of 66 commercials for Apple Hodgman
Continued to contribute to The Daily Show while landing additional acting roles. I just don’t like your uterus
Don’t get me wrong. Your eggs are in great shape, but you have a t-shaped uterus in 2009
He was even asked to roast. The President of the United States is the president truly nerdcore
or is it all just an act as
Fake as those obviously prosthetic ears all of these experiences
Provided Hodgman a level of access few are granted
Not just the Sky Club at JFK and not just you know, luxury hotels and so forth
But the secret gifting Wow at the Emmys where swag is given away
to use simply because you exist while being famous and
literal Masonic Lodge
meetings where leaders of the world are meeting in secret to have a party and you realize every conspiracy theory is true and
It’s part of my obligation
I suppose to show what’s going on in there and showing how status and fame and power and all of these small little
vestments that we put on are really actually very flimsy and
Deserve to be pulled off every now and then so that we can really see ourselves
but after the Apple campaign ended and then Jon Stewart went off the air Hodgman says the invitations started to slow and
Then came to run in with the corgis
we all lose jobs or we age out of jobs or
We get dumped by someone or the teacher takes us aside and said you’re not doing a great job, you know
We all lose status and even though it might make you defensive and angry if you take a moment
You can also reflect you can readjust who you are and what you want to do in your life and you can be better
So humiliation is a you know, except when it’s purely cruel
It’s actually a kind of gift, you know, and it is part of the same
impulse that leads to humility
This is PBS Newshour weekend Saturday
With all the attention in the UK turned to brexit lately some may have missed an important milestone in London this week
Westminster Abbey celebrated its seven hundred fiftieth anniversary
PBS Newshour weekend Megan Thompson has the story
Church bells rang out earlier this week for the seven hundred and fiftieth celebration at the French Gothic style church
Which was consecrated on October 13th, 12 69 by King Henry the 3rd
This is the third Church on this site and it’s 750 years old this week
I mean the place is unbelievable in terms of the number of things that go on
The number of visitors who come the enormous number of people who come a worship day by day by day
At evensong we have hundreds of people who come to worship every day and 2,000 people on Sundays on average
So it’s an extraordinary place with lots going on
Queen Elizabeth and Camilla the Duchess of Cornwall attended a service and observation of the anniversary and met with church officials
Sixteen royal weddings have been held at Westminster as well as every royal coronation since 1066
The church was originally founded by Benedictine monks in 960 AD
And over the centuries has welcomed worshipers from all over the world and of various faiths
I think a very important theme of the Abbey is that of one people
It’s a center for all faiths a lot of interfaith services
Christians and Jews
Relationship with the Catholic Church – and I think we are they since the 1960s has tried to reach out to a very broad
constituency to make itself a National Church
But in a new age the church also houses the shrine of Saint Edward and a number of historic collections
Dating back to the 10th century
Tomorrow we will continue our signature series on the expansion of ice detention centers in Louisiana
And we’ll look at Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s bid for a second term in Monday’s Canadian election
That’s all for this edition of PBS news hour weekend. I’m Alison Stewart. Thank you for watching. Have a good night
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